The scammer protocol..

[JERRY.JERRY.JERRY...]

imo number 1,2,7,8,9,10 should be imediate ban as its unfair for the rest that play fair
not banning them the instant they are found cheating will make others try it also

[JayCee]

I agree with cristian.. the three strikes rule is just going to cause problems on top of preexisting problems, if you're scamming, exploiting, multi accounting, etc.. who cares if your cash or points are removed? You'll just scam, exploit, multi, etc again to gain more.. I think we all have seen that already..

As for the verbal abuse, at some point a game ban has to come into play, or they will take to the forums, smart ads, and continue it..

By the way, if three strikes is it for scamming, which is still in my opinion a bit much, is grump getting a clean slate? He's had more than three strikes.. at this point I think he's had more than three bans reversed.

[Don.Varela]

It is good to have this kind of code.

[Depth]

Maximum of one chance (depending on the rule, no chances for some) then lay down the hammer.

[ADMIN]

I still think instant ban is too much. At least a second chance should be allowed as long as the stolen goods are returned / multi account is banned etc etc...

Surely everyone can understand that?

[Depth]

If there is a chance system in place it might also be nice if mobsters can see if they have used up any chances previously. Mainly for things like scamming and such so they know to keep an eye out for dodge players. (The more eyes the better, especially for previous offenses). Obviously not required but just a thought.

As far as chances go I think they should only really have ONE chance, if they do it a second time ban them outright or put some limits on that account so they miss out of certain parts of the game they could enjoy prior to breaking the rules.

[Machiavelli]

1.   You are only allowed to have ONE account
- After Second Warning: all multi accounts are banned and primary account loses all cash
- After Third Warning: all accounts are banned

There's no need for a first warning without any consequences, as it's a rule, and by playing the game you agree to its rules. Multi's should be banned instantly, but I could also live with:
- First warning: all cash & points are removed from main  account & stats divided by 10
-  Second warning: ban and deletion of the account!!!

2. You cannot enter any other accounts, even if requested by the account owner. Additionally you may not have non-players enter an account for any reason, even if requested by the account owner. If anyone ask you to do it, report it on the Support Desk.
- After Second Warning: all cash & points are removed from offending accounts
- Third Warning: all counts banned

Sounds acceptable if you change Second warning to first warning and third to second.


3. Using serious verbal abuse (including racism) towards other players (whether through mail/forum or on a mobsters profile) is strictly forbidden. The definition of "verbal abuse" will be defined by the members of the staff not the players.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from chat & messaging

Sounds acceptable.


4. No flooding/spamming anywhere (it means continually filling the screen with repetitive text, whether it be advertising or plainly abusing three or more lines of chat causing a disruptive flow of unnecessary material). Massive use of caps can also be considered as spamming.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from chat & messaging

This one's a bit strict. A second warning could mean a 1 hour ban and a third warning could result in a 3 day chatban. A 4th chatban in 6 months is permanent.


5. Asking for personal or contact information of any kind is strictly prohibited. Please do not post personal contact information on any part of MafiaKings. This includes important bank information and/or contact details.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from chat & messaging

Sounds acceptable.


6. Swearing on chat, shoutbox, forum, ads, profile or anywhere else on MafiaKings is not allowed. It is still considered swearing if the word is starred out, letters are re-arranged or it is clearly understood as swearing.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from chat & messaging

Same as rule 4: Too strict. A second warning could mean a 1 hour ban and a third warning could result in a 3 day chatban. A 4th chatban in 6 months is permanent.

7. Using game-enhancing programs such as any form of Macros plugins, any form of auto-clicker programs, and any form of reloader plugins. The use of these programs set the abusing players at an unfair advantage over those who are playing manually, and the infraction will not be tolerated. Players caught or suspected of the use of one or more of these banned programs, plugins, or techniques are subject to banning, or account deletion at the discretion of the game admin.
- After Second Warning: all cash & points are removed from offending accounts
- Third Warning: all counts banned

My suggestion:
- First warning: all cash & points are removed from offending accounts
- Second warning: ban and deletion of the account!!!

8. Exploitation of any bugs or holes in the game will be punished with permanent ban and deletion of the account.
- After Second Warning: all cash & points are removed from offending accounts
- Third Warning: all counts banned

- First warning: all cash & points are removed from offending accounts & all stats divided by 100
- Second warning: ban and deletion of the account!!!

9. Any advertising of other websites is not tolerated and will result in a permanent ban.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from game

THIS IS DEFINITELY AN IMMEDIATE LIFETIME BAN!!!

10. Scamming other players in-game or through an external tool (website , instant messaging, etc.) is FORBIDDEN! Use the in-game markets to protect yourself from scamming. IF YOU GOT SCAMMED BY USING EXTERNAL TOOLS, IT IS YOUR LOSS AND WE ARE 100% NOT RESPONSIBLE AS ALL PROOF CAN BE MANIPULATED. NOTHING WILL BE RECOVERED IF YOU USE EXTERNAL TOOLS. All scammers that are reported and proven to have scam will be banned. MafiaKings is not responsible for recovering your lost money, points, or items, but may intervene at the discretion of the admin.
- 1st Warning: all scammed items & money returned or permanent ban
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messaging, all scammed items & money returned or permanent ban
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban

IMMEDIATE PERMANENT BAN!!! IMMEDIATE PERMANENT BAN!!! IMMEDIATE PERMANENT BAN!!!

11. The use of nudity and/or racism anywhere on this site is prohibited.
- 2nd Warning: 1 week ban from chat & messagning
- 3rd Warning: Permanent ban from game

Sounds acceptable

12. Account sales are allowed, but items and cash & points from the other account cannot be sent to the new account.
- 1st Warning: Items and cash & points must be returned
- 2nd Warning: Ban for all accounts

I wouldn’t allow account sales at all. Recent account sales I’m sure have lead to ppl donating less, because instead of buying credits, they bought a better account. This is only 1 of several reasons why I’m against account sales.
 
13. Item, points cash sales externally for real money are NOT allowed under any circumstances
- 1st Warning: Items and cash & points must be returned
- 2nd Warning: Ban for all accounts



My overall comment is obvious: most rules are far too mild. This game became a success under some very strict rules who were enforced by all mods. It created a safe, high quality environment for all players.
I strongly doubt that changing the view on how rules must be less enforced will improve the game! I believe enough ppl have let their hearts speak. Apart from you and Grumpster we unanymously say NO to most new rules. Especially the tolerant rules on scamming.. This is pretty outrageous, Admin. The entire community but one is complaining about it.

[potato]

I only play this game for a while but from what i have seen there were loads and loads of players (good bit of them strong) who broke rules once and got banned and are still banned. djj or smthing got banned for adwerts was banned then he got back and everyone started screaming and he got banned aswell.. why is it different now? who is annon and grump? becouse u donate u can ignore rules and get second chance? either ban them both or unban the players who were banned before and give them second chance too.. fair?

[...:::HYPERION:::...]

I only play this game for a while but from what i have seen there were loads and loads of players (good bit of them strong) who broke rules once and got banned and are still banned. djj or smthing got banned for adwerts was banned then he got back and everyone started screaming and he got banned aswell.. why is it different now? who is annon and grump? becouse u donate u can ignore rules and get second chance? either ban them both or unban the players who were banned before and give them second chance too.. fair?

to put it bluntly he is correct heck what would have happened if ace and vita got a second chance two years ago, bet most of the community would have quit. if you can't play by the rules the first time then why sign up. i have been playing for 2 years and have never broke a rule never been chat banned nothing. and the fact someone could exploit the game train past me and then get "put on a naughty step" and get banned from pm's for a week is outrageous. maybe in real life when someone breaks a speed limit instead of a fine we should just warn them numerous times, warning's mean nothing to an offender, seems you just want to pussy foot around and not be harsh to people who break rules, i see it as if you break the rules you proberly don't care much for the game. another fact is why are people going to donate when they could be scammed because with these rules the game is just asking for scammers to come out of the woodwork,

basically the rules were there for a reason, why do you think society works in real life, you have to be strict otherwise people are just going to take the mick, as they know the consequences are minor   

[potato]

so why some ppl get second chance and some not? where is the line? who decides? if i donated alot could i get a second chance? or i exploited a bug once and i shouldnt get a second chance.. ban them or unban everyone for second chance..
P.S. i play Steam games and i believe good bit of u all know what is it.. what happens if u play a game and brake a rule (in this case using cheats) ? u get banned straight away.. 

[JayCee]

Yeah, I agree - obviously.. I think the point we are missing here is scamming, for game cash and items, or real life cash, it's cheating.. flat out. I tend to think that a game that gives a pat on the wrist for cheaters - probably won't do so well.. Also, there is something to be said for the fact that Grump has apparently scammed others from real life cash as well, I'm curious how much of his "donations" are money that rightfully belongs to other people - how is that fair, and how do you see that this WON'T drive other players away? It gives him an unfair advantage.. If I were to have 15 accounts feeding mine - would other players be okay with it? Doubtful.. so I still don't see how it's fair to anyone to allow this bs to continue..