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« on: August 29, 2011, 03:48:09 PM »

I'd really like to sort out the whole scamming issues so that we can eliminate it from the game entirely.

As I'm sure most of you agree the more players we have on MK the better, therefore banning people who attempt to scam (despite this being a MAFIA game for gods sake, I mean in RL they scam people all the time), is not really helping the game that much.

I'd really like some programming suggestion ideas of how I could modify the game so that scamming doesn't actually take place. We could have some sort of contract market where you could create a contract that HAS to be fulfilled, i.e. you can only set one up if you have the money and points, then everyone could verify if the other person is speaking the truth or not. If someone still gets scammed it will be their own fault for not using the system.

I really need some help here as I'm sure you can see it's quite frustrating having to listen to both sides of every story, everyone always thinks that they are right, and sometimes the more charismatic person is the one who wins. We need a way for scamming to just plainly NOT be an issue.

So please can we use this thread to find a solution that would radically change the game.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2011, 04:32:32 PM »

Maybe you should add something to the game such as a trade system where if people dont want to use the market they can trade directly to another person. Say im selling points.. i set up a trade with someone, add the points and then they add the money.. So i cant be scammed, both I and the other person have to accept the trade to finalise it?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2011, 04:40:18 PM »

You should try to do it with with items, pets, cars, land, and possibly even houses?
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2011, 05:31:45 PM »

Maybe you should add something to the game such as a trade system where if people dont want to use the market they can trade directly to another person. Say im selling points.. i set up a trade with someone, add the points and then they add the money.. So i cant be scammed, both I and the other person have to accept the trade to finalise it?

I really personally like this idea.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2011, 06:06:40 PM »

There are credit, points, item, land, car and pets markets. Everything is fine but a little work should be done on item market. This rule should be removed that items cost cant exceed $10mil. Because of this rule higher items can not be sold in market because they cost more then 10mil.
And i would say that money should go to bank after any trade automatically and this should be applied in all markets.

There were scamming issues with banking but now it is reduced as most people dnt give money for banking now. So there will be scamming issues related to banking cauz no contract system can be introduced like fail mugging contracts.

Also there should be strict rules about scamming and scammer tags. It was wrong that recently an scammer was unbanned and tag was removed. So there should be strick rules and scammers should get banned for life. This will not be good for game if there will scammers all around the game.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 08:02:18 PM »

What Psycho said was exactly what this game needs...
Like:



Player 1                                          |                       Player 2                   
THREE X Credit(s)                                                     900 Point(s)

(Player one has accepted)                                          Do you agree with the terms of this deal?
                                                                             [Yes] | [No]


something like that, obviously designed and stuff to make it look nice...would work for me...
You could clearly see, what you were buying and for how much

Plus both players have to agree on it...

Just what I think.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 08:40:50 PM »

+1 exactly how I would've thought of it DLS.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 12:02:09 AM »

So I've been thinking about it.. and the only possible problem I see here is mugging.. a lot of people have put a ton into speed to be able to mug, and will not be happy to lose the option of buy/mugs or mugging someone who forgets they have stuff on the market, or that they have cash on hand.. So this poses the question.. is there any way to incorporate this into the idea? Any ideas?
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 11:41:42 AM »

@ Admin , mailed you something related to this before reading this topic. Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 11:44:50 AM »

Jaycee has got it right, if muggers can't mug more than job earnings every day then there isn't much point in it I don't think.

You either make it so a trade deal had a chance to fail, and the buyer left a percentage of their money out (something I don't want to happen, because you'd never be sure that you wouldn't lose A LOT of your money, especially if you were buying shadow armour or something).

I've been having a think, and trying to think what mobsters do: stab you in the back.
Maybe there could be the option, for the buyer, to be able to backstab the seller, and try and mug back the whole amount or a percentage of the amount you sent them when you paid for the item/points/credits. To backstab would cost money, and there'd always be a chance that you spent more on the backstab than the amount you get back.
Oh, and 'backstabbed' money goes straight to your hand. You can't backstab from the hospital.
Also, backstabbing should use nerve or energy. And there could be a chance you end up in the hospital.

^^Something I just threw together. There's probably way more options that are viable for muggers.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 04:38:37 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 06:07:31 PM »

Can we use user ID's instead of usernames in  Gamename box ?  thanks ...

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 04:07:37 AM »

Can we use user ID's instead of usernames in  Gamename box ?  thanks ...



Isn't it much easier to use a name?
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 04:42:04 AM »

Easier to do IDs.... My name doesn't show up cause I have an image name, but it's -LoneAssassin- not just LoneAssassin, like it says on my image name. Also it would be cool if we could add more items.... Say both weapon and armor; weapon, armor, shoes, and hat, etc.

We can set up more than one of an item, but not multiple items.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 10:28:44 AM »

It would be nice if we could also sell our gang in escort trading.
I was also thinking for multi items selling and recieving.
For Example 1credits is placed at price of 100points and $1mil
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